- Linux Computers
- DVDs & Films
- Writings & Reports
- Arab Spring
- Libyan Revolution
- Libyans spilled blood for us!
- NATO killed 60 civilians in Libya
- ANSWER Libya Forum
- Battle to Liberate Tripoli
- Behind the Green Curtain
- NATO's Game Plan in Libya
- How They Won
- Abdul Fattah Younis
- Abdul Rahman
- Amy gets it wrong
- CCDS on Libya
- Chris Hedges on Libya
- Current Events in Libya
- Doha summit
- Racism in Libya
- On Libya & Glenn Greenwald
- NATO's intervention in Libya
- Gilbert Achcar on Libya
- Tripoli's Long Night
- Green Sq Reality Check
- Qaddafi's Million Man March
- Lockerbie Bomber Lie
- Kucinich & Qaddafi Regime
- NATO over Tripoli
- Libya & Syria: Dueling Rallies
- AI on Libya again
- Situation in Libya
- ANSWER answers me
- Libya in the news today
- Tripoli Burn Notice
- Libya on PressTV
- Throwing babies out
- Libyans killed by NATO
- Libyans, Palestinians & Israelis
- Africa Rising
- The Occupy Movement
- The Year in Review
- Occupy Oakland on Jan. 28
- How Occupy LA got itself evicted
- Why Villaraigosa kicked us out
- Demonization of Mario
- Was DHS behind the eviction
- OccupyLA Eviction
- Did 1st Amend protect OLA
- Bandits of America
- OccupyLA Day 48
- Hard Block Cafe
- 10K March with OccupyLA
- OccupyLA - Day 8
- OccupyLA - Day 7
- OccupyLA - Day 6
- OccupyLA - Day 5
- OccupyLA - Day 4
- OccupyLA – Day 3
- OccupyLA - Day 2
- OccupyLA - Day 1
- Occupy Los Angeles Starts
- Arab Spring Comes to LA
- OccupyLA on 10/1
- G20 Road Trip
- The Decisive Decade
- Anonymous & WikiLeaks
- US Wars
- Why the US didn't find WMD
- US troops pose with bodies
- Haditha & USMC
- Louis Proyect reviews VAH
- Announcing Premiere of VAH
- Vietnam War was holocaust
- What Is A Holocaust?
- Winter Soldier Southwest
- Ex-Marine Corps Serial Killer
- Another Day In Iraq
- The Liberation of Viet Nam
- Hearing Cpl. Ryan
- Ahmadinejad @ Columbia
- Executing Afghan Kids
- How War Started
- Agent Orange in Iraq
- US Killing in Yemen
- Happy New Years Iraq!
- US Politics
- Too Big To Fail?
- Liberty Bell Destroyed!
- Xmas Carol for Obama
- Obama on Vietnam
- Stop This Oil Leak
- Karl Marx on TV!
- BP Dome won't work
- Rick Santorum
- Bill Clinton Rips GOP
- Laid off Census Worker
- Severe Conservative?
- This Week: Sen. John McCain
- Newspaper Death Spiral
- Sarah Palin
- Sotomayor Experience
- "Everyone is Disapearing"
- Racism in the US
- Internet Freedom & Open Source
- My Best Tweets
- Android make Google Money?
- Country Codes for the Internet?
- End of the Internet
- Free Press would this Illegal!
- Free Press Agenda?
- Google Verizon Deal
- Keith Olbermann's Deception
- Obama versus Google
- What are these RMT Alerts?
- Verizon's Rebate Challenge
- Victory is Sweet
- Why I like Google
- Would Net Neutrality Stop WikiLeaks?
- e- G8 plans for Internet
- Al Franken on Network Neutrality
- Cyber War Report
- FCC Internet Rules
- Google Must Be Evil
- Google\Verizon Net Neutrality
- Internet Engineers
- Julian Assange on Threat
- Let a 100 Websites Blossom
- Mountain comes to Mohammad
- Net Neutrality's Trojan Horse
- Obama's Internet Coup d'état
- Victory on Internet Censorship
- Daily Kos Diaries
- Stubborn Things
- WL Central Writings
Senior Egyptian Army Officers Ordered Massacre!
Please Recommend this diary as the info in it is extremely important to the Egyptian people.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has resigned and is said to be in a coma. his appointed replacement, Omar Suleiman, is nowhere to be found and the Egyptian army has taken over. There has been wild celebration in the streets of Cairo but there is good reason to think that all is not well and the danger is far from over. Thanks to the reporting of Robert Fisk, we now have the information upon which to arrive at the terrible conclusion of my title. Senior Egyptian army officers, the very ones that are exercising a military dictatorship now, where quite willing only two weeks ago, to carry out a wholesale slaughter of the thousands of protesters in Liberation Square.
Reporting in the Independent on Friday, Robert Fisk tells us that Hosni Mubarak had ordered the massacre of the people in Tahrir Square:
the critical moment came on the evening of 30 January when, it is now clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army to crush the demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks after flying F-16 fighter bombers at low level over the protesters.
Many of the senior tank commanders could be seen tearing off their headsets – over which they had received the fatal orders – to use their mobile phones. They were, it now transpires, calling their own military families for advice. Fathers who had spent their lives serving the Egyptian army told their sons to disobey, that they must never kill their own people.
I am doing this story today because I think what I said at the end of a blog yesterday is worth repeating:
Please note also something else that can be deduced from Robert Fisk's description of these events. Namely that it was the low level officers in the tanks, the ones that got their orders over headsets, that refused to carry out the mass murder in Tahrir Square. Had the top brass refused Mubarak, those orders never would have been heard over headsets.
That was on Sunday, January 30th. The very next day, the NY Times reported :
Within hours on Monday, the political landscape of the country shifted as decisively as it had at any moment in Mr. Mubarak’s three decades in power.
And now we know why.
It was soldiers with cell phones that stopped the slaughter. It was the low level officers and tank commanders that organized a mutiny and refused to carry out the massacre. We now know that when an army spokesman announced on state TV the day after the refused massacre, that “the armed forces will not resort to use of force against our great people.” He was not speaking of the will or morality of the supreme military council, he was speaking of their limitations. He was referring to a power they had attempted to exercise but failed to exercise the night before.
We can now also conclude that that public announcement was directed as much at avoiding a full scale mutiny from below within the army as it was was about reassuring the protesters. It also explains why they made this announcement in spite of the fact, as noted by many commentators at the time, that it clearly would embolden and enlarge the protests. They were in danger of losing control of their army.
We can compare what apparently happened in Egypt to what happened in Tunisia. In Tunisia, when embattled President Ben Ali ordered the army to fire on protesters those orders were never heard over headsets because it was the General Rashid Ammar, the chief of staff, later named hero of the revolution, that refused Den Ali's orders.
Even the night of the aborted army assault, some tank commanders in Tahrir Square were reported to be stripping off their uniforms while protesters swarmed over their tanks, and in the report cited above Robert Fisk says:
Last night, a military officer guarding the tens of thousands celebrating in Cairo threw down his rifle and joined the demonstrators, yet another sign of the ordinary Egyptian soldier's growing sympathy for the democracy demonstrators. We had witnessed many similar sentiments from the army over the past two weeks.
Now the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces is consolidating it's control over Egypt. On Sunday it issued " Communique No 5 " in which it made the head of the council the head of state, suspended the useless constitution, dissolved Mubarak's parliament and called for an end to strikes.
It vowed to rewrite the constitution within 10 days and put it to a vote within two months. It has promised to limit it's military rule to 6 months and it has included two young on-line activists, Google executive Wael Ghonim and blogger Amr Salama in the group of opposition leaders it is meeting with. These are hopeful measures.
But it has also failed to lift the state of emergency, failed to release the majority of the protesters it has arrested. It has also been using increasing force to remove pro-democracy activist from Liberation Square and today it made it very clear that it wanted all foreign reporters out of the way. These are the ways of a military dictatorship.
While everyone, including former supporters of the Mubarak regime like U.S. President Obama, is celebrating the victory of the Egyptian revolution, the same top brass that is ruling Egypt today were willing to past down the orders to slaughter thousands of Egyptians for demanding democracy two weeks ago. Obviously the Egyptian Revolution will never be realized and the Egyptian people will never be safe as long as this senior officers corp controls the army. They must be systematically replaced. New leadership from among the officers who refused such orders must be found. No reprisals can be allowed against the rebellious soldiers. The state of emergency must be lifted and all protesters in custody must be freed. All this must be done while the people are still mobilized and strikes are still going on.
Otherwise the military dictatorship will quietly discipline and replace the mutinous officers and soldiers. They will roll up the networks of activists, clamp down again on free speech and protest and plunge Egypt again into the darkness.
Don't let your guard down! The Rebellion is still in danger.
Here are the links to my articles at WL Central:
2011-02-13 Tales of Tyrants: Ben Ali, Mubarak & Suleiman
2011-02-12 Algeria Protesters Defy Ban, Demand Change
The Mubarak Screw Up & the Suleiman Danger
2011-02-10 Mubarak is Defiant
2011-02-10 Mubarak Expected to Step Down!
2011-02-09 The Google Search for Wael Ghonim
2011-02-08 The New Egyptian Normal: Thousands Demonstrate in Cairo, Alexandria
2011-02-06 Tunisia's Revolution Continues
2011-02-04 Tunisian Anonymous activists take on Egyptian cause
2011-02-04 Protesters roar back with "Day of Departure" for Mubarak
2011-02-03 Algerians plan Feb 12 protest against 19- year-long state of emergency
2011-02-01 Jordan's King Sacks Government as Protests Grow
2011-02-01 Tunisian Islamic Leader Returns as EU Freezes Ousted President's Assets
2011-02-01 Army Vows Not to Shoot as Protesters make Million Man Marches in Cairo, Alexandria Today [UPDATE: 2]
2011-01-30 Million Egyptian Protest Planned as Resistance Continues
2011-01-29 No Internet? No Problem! Anonymous Faxes Egypt
2011-01-28 In Jordan Thousands Demand New Government
2011-01-28 Mubarak Refuses to Step Down!
2011-01-28 Egypt is on Fire!
2011-01-27 Libya is in Revolt as Gaddafi Worries
2011-01-27 Algerians Plan Big Protest Rally for February 9th
2011-01-27 Tunisia Protests Continues as a Warrant is Issued for Ben Ali
2011-01-27 Tens of Thousands Rally in Yemen, Demand Change
2011-01-27 Mubarak Blinks as Egyptian Protests Continue for 3rd Day
Here is a recap of my other DKos dairies on the Internet, North Africa and Anonymous:
BREAKING: Mubarak is Defiant
The Google Search for Wael Ghonim
Tunisia's Revolution Continues
Google Goes Rebel, Supports Egyptian Protest
Tunisian Anonymous activists take on Egyptian cause
Protesters roar back with "Day of Departure" for Mubarak
Act Now to Stop Mubarak's Thugs From Killing More! w Petition
Act Now to Stop Mubarak's Thugs From Killing More!
They Should Have Helped That Street Vendor
Million Egyptian Protest Planned as Resistance Continues
Huffington Post Disses the Jasmine Revolution Redux
No Internet? No Problem! Anonymous Faxes Egypt
Egypt is on Fire!
North African Revolution Continues
Egypt Protests Continue, Tunisia Wants Ben Ali Back
BREAKING: Protesters Plan Massive "Day of Wrath" in Egypt Today
Tunisians Thank Anonymous as North Africa Explodes
Huffington Post Disses the Jasmine Revolution
Tunisia: A Single Tweet Can Start A Prairie Fire!
Anonymous plans Op Swift Assist in Tunisia
Arrested Pirate Party Member Becomes Tunisian Minister
Is Libya Next? Anonymous Debates New Operation
Tunis: This Photo was Taken 66 Minutes Ago
The WikiLeaks Revolution: Anonymous Strikes Tunisia
EMERGENCY: DKos Must Act Now to Protect Tunisian Bloggers!
Free Software & Internet Show Communism is Possible
BREAKING - Digital Sit-Ins: The Internet Strikes Back!
Cyber War Report: New Front Opens Against Internet Coup d'état
Operation PayBack: 1st Cyber War Begins over WikiLeaks
The Internet Takeover: Why Google is Next
BREAKING: Goodbye Internet Freedom as Wikileaks is Taken Down
BREAKING NEWS: Obama Admin Takes Control of Internet Domains!
Things Even Keith Olbermann Won't Cover - UPDATE: VICTORY!!!
Stop Internet Blacklist Bill Now!
Sweet Victory on Internet Censorship: Senate Backs Off!
Internet Engineers tell the Senate to Back Off!
Why is Net Neutrality advocate Free Press MIA?
Obama's Internet Coup d'état
Julian Assange on Threat to Internet Freedom